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Why the Right Wing Is Petrified of Letting Voters, Instead of the Electoral College, Pick Presidents | Election 2012 | AlterNet

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Republican Senator Mitch McConnell calls it “absurd and dangerous.” The Wall Street Journal says it deserves to “die.” The Heritage Foundation calls it “unconstitutional.” The Washington Post calls it “flawed.” A Republican National Committee resolution says it is a radical, un-American, “questionable legal maneuver.”

It is awarding the presidency to the candidate who wins the most votes.

“The United States is not a democracy and shouldn’t be,” said Michael Munger, Duke University’s Political Science Department chairman and a 2008 Libertarian gubernatorial candidate attacking it at a League of Women Voters forum. “There is NO moral force in the majority. It is just what most people happen to think.”

These right-wingers are truly worried that a plan reforming the way the president-electing Electoral College works is gaining legal ground and could bring the biggest change in the political landscape in decades. The National Popular Vote plan would replace the current system, in which states award Electoral College delegates to whomever wins the presidential vote in that state, with a new interstate agreement where a participating state’s delegates would be bound to the national popular vote winner.

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easyjjgrand3

"The reason that it has such appeal is a basic sense that is consistently held in every demographic—Republican, Democratic, old, young, black, white—that the person with the most votes should win, and that every person's vote in the election should count the same. And neither of those are true in our current system. And they feel it is wrong. And it is wrong."

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Reply#1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:01 AM EST
I'm Ringo

Not surprising really. Just like attempts by Democrats to prevent troops overseas from voting and strong opposition in both parties to any sort of voting system that would do away with the type of plurality system currently helping them maintain a stranglehold on American politics, 'voice of Americans' means diddly next to 'power for our party'.

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 5:01 AM EST
McSpocky

There are no attempts by Democrats to prevent troops overseas from voting. There are many republican attempts in the country to try and prevent Democrats from voting though.

  • 6 votes
#2.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 11:58 AM EST
I'm Ringo

There are no attempts by Democrats to prevent troops overseas from voting.

You electing to pretend reality doesn't exist doesn't actually change reality.

  • 1 vote
#2.2 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 3:49 PM EST
McSpocky

So why are you electing to pretend reality is different than it really is?

  • 2 votes
#2.3 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:58 PM EST
I'm Ringo

So why are you electing to pretend reality is different than it really is?

Now you're confusing me with you. As to why you're pretending, only you can give the answer about your motivation.

    #2.4 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:13 PM EST
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    ron c. baker sr.

    ...The United States is NOT a Democracy (my caps...never mind) and shouldn't be...'

    '...There is NO moral force (his caps...never mind...again) in the majority. It is just what most people happen to think...'

    ok, maybe it's just me, or i am missing something, or it's Tuesday, but is this guy as stupid, and seriously one son-of-a-bitch, as he seems for making statements as ludicrous as this???

    luv,

    ron

    • 5 votes
    Reply#3 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 5:44 AM EST
    McSpocky

    The right wing has lost its marbles, hasn't it...

    • 5 votes
    #3.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 11:59 AM EST
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    McSpocky

    In other words, as soon as states with a total of 270 Electoral College delegates sign on—and they are halfway there—presidential elections where one state swayed the outcome, such as Ohio in 2004 and Florida in 2000, would be no more.

    The people would be truly electing the President. Some of the dirty tricks would be done away with, and that scares the republicans to death.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#4 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 12:00 PM EST
    easyjjgrand3

    If voters took time to reflect they would be all for this plan after having to sit through the debacle that was the election of 2000 where the SCOTUS essentially chose Bush. The reason being, improprieties in voting booths in the state of Florida where Bush's brother just happened to be Governor, and it's 25 electoral votes would've made Gore POTUS.

    BTW Gore led the popular vote by 500,000.......Personally I'm in favor of doing away with the Electoral College.

    • 4 votes
    #4.1 - Tue Feb 7, 2012 2:25 PM EST
    McSpocky

    I've been strongly for doing away with the electoral college since the 2000 excuse of an election too. Maybe someday we might get our wish.

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    #4.2 - Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:59 PM EST
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